I think the answer to that question, frankly, is that there is more than there was when I was the director of CSIS, but it would be wrong to say that there was no foreign interference, or no evidence of foreign interference, at that time. There was foreign interference. There has always been foreign interference. It is, in effect, a result of our being a country of immigration. There has been foreign interference in many communities across the country over the years for a variety of reasons, either because foreign countries are concerned about the actions of their former citizens or because they see advantages in taking advantage of their former citizens in Canada.
There are different reasons for countries to engage in foreign interference, but it is not new. It has happened before. It will likely continue well into the future.
There are things we need to do about foreign interference. There were actions we took in that period, and I'm sure the service has also taken action in some cases to deal with the issues of foreign interference, but clearly it has gotten worse. It has gotten worse with respect to the Chinese and clearly in the case of India as well. India has become much more aggressive in recent years than it was in an earlier time, although they were active even when I was the director of the service.