Madam Chair, for the northbound people and what we've seen over the years, if I go back to 2022, we finished that year with about 40,000 such people. Mind you, that was before the STCA. It dipped in 2023, down to 15,000, and that's a result of the STCA. Now, this year to date, we have 1,100 people on record who have come up northbound.
