That's fair enough. Maybe we can follow up on that with Justice. It's my understanding that it's actually a life sentence, but we can certainly follow up with Justice on that.
On some of the precursors, Commissioner, you mentioned the reverse onus. Are there other countries that have that?
It would help if we had pretty strong sentences for the trafficking of precursors. If there were additional legislative proposals that had a reverse onus, there would be pretty strict penalties together.
Do you have examples of what that reverse onus approach looks like, and if there are other countries currently doing something similar?