Mr. MacGregor, the fundamental failure in Ottawa during the illegal occupation was an absence of the rule of law in a democratic G7 country for the better part of three weeks. That is absolutely inexcusable. The state was absent. We were not able to enforce the legislation that we have on incitement, hate crimes, sedition, on whatever else you might want to include here. I think when we have that fundamental of a failure of the fundamental....
The first obligation of the modern state to its citizens is the safety and security of all citizens. When the state cannot provide for that, then we need to understand what happened. Police services acts have a clear measure of that: adequate and effective policing. Adequate and effective policing means meeting the needs, values and expectations of citizens.
Mr. MacGregor, you ask Canadians whether the policing that we saw in Ottawa, and the response by the state, was adequate and effective. If the answer to that by a majority of Canadians is no, then I think we have good grounds for a royal commission to understand what happened to make sure we never have a recurrence of that sort of situation.