I think we need to stop saying to some people that we believe you and to others that we don't. I think what we need to do is focus strictly on victims and hear what their perspectives are and to actually believe them. That doesn't come from just saying I believe you or I don't believe you. I think we create a system to support victims.
We've seen really good examples across the world, particularly in Germany, which are now being exported to the OECD. Understandably, their context is significantly different. However, I think there are ways that we can reframe our social services infrastructure to support victims of hate. That could have tangible impacts, not only in determining who a victim is, what a victim feels, what the supports need to be, but in terms of having the system as a whole acknowledge the wrong of what is happening.
I see a number of components to this. Mr. Aziz pointed towards the sensitive and respectful treatment of hate crime victims. There's a real need to be able to understand that. If you want people to go to the police to report it, there needs to be a specialist to address hate crimes. I think that victim support is a key and pivotal portion of that response.