In some ways we'll never get to perfect, so I live in a world where less bad is my standard. We still have 19% unvaccinated in the United States. That's not a great number, but given a lot of misinformation, it's not as bad as I had worried before, so in some ways I think we were able to capture it.
When I say “government” though, it's not simply at the national level. If you look at COVID specifically, one of the ways to overcome vaccine reluctance based on misinformation was very much a local-based communication strategy. In our case, Dr. Fauci had lost his ability to be persuasive among a pool of people. That's okay, and that happens. You pivot to much more localized spokespeople.