I really think that NATO and the Biden administration have been really brilliant in this, in terms of new threats. They're not actually looking specifically at the threat. If you take cyber or what you mentioned, electromagnetic disruption, they're looking at the consequences. They were early in making a distinction.
It took a while for me to figure out what they were doing, because they weren't quite transparent about it. They were, “Look, there are disruptions in the world, and we'll accept those disruptions for the price of doing business.” In other words, because we're connected, because the Internet works, because we need our electronics, we're always going to assume there's some level of vulnerability.
There will be disruptions because people just behave poorly, but those aren't reasons to go to war.