We're out of time for this session.
I would like to thank the witnesses very much for the generosity of their time. This takes us to the end of this panel.
Colleagues, we're more than two hours through a four-hour meeting. I think that probably means that one or more of you may want to make a trip somewhere, even if it's to get a sandwich.
I'm going to suggest that we take a 15-minute break now to give members a chance to do whatever it is they feel obliged or required to do, or want to do. The clerk will give us the go-ahead sign in about 15 minutes when we will proceed with the next panel.
Thank you very much. We're suspended for 15 minutes.