That's correct. I never heard the minister or the Prime Minister's Office directing anyone to do anything. However, there has been evidence before this committee of emails that would suggest a certain or a significant interest in that information from the minister's office to the commissioner of the RCMP's office. Whether those conversations took place verbally, I can't speak to that, but what I can say is that I think the evidence is clear that there was interest by the minister's office with respect to specific information on those firearms via email.