Okay, thank you.
In terms of your interactions with the commissioner and those of the commissioner with the government, it is her.... As she's the head of the RCMP, at the end of the day, she makes the decision on what she shares with the government of Canada.
COVID had just started, and I think the entire country was in shock. You testified that you had just been through two hours of a press conference, which must have been absolutely gruelling for you, sir. I can't imagine how difficult that was.
Would it not be fair to say that tensions were probably a bit high? I guess that's not the right term. It was very emotional for everyone at that time and during that phone conversation.