I want to switch gears a bit, and again I want to direct this to the RCMP. We know that people are not born criminals and we've talked a lot about enforcement, but we haven't talked a lot about the prevention piece. We're going to hear from other organizations that are doing a lot of the work on that. As one of them said to me, if there are no young men joining gangs, there are no gangs.
We're also going to hear from a woman who was a gun runner in one of the gangs. You mentioned human trafficking and we've talked about drugs, but are you seeing younger people being drawn into gangs? We're seeing 13-year-olds being used in gang and also women, so basically some of the most vulnerable people are being drawn into gangs. I'm just wondering if you could comment on that a little.