From my experience, I walk five nights a week in the north end. I'm on the ground with my people, and for us it's about being consistent, being out there, engaging with the community members at their level and meeting them at their level, not going there to try to change what they're about. It's just trying to meet them at their level, meet them at their needs, supply them with the resources they need.
Right now in Winnipeg, with COVID and everything going on, resources are being stretched thin. Everybody is doing their best, and we're trying as well to make a difference.