I think that if you're looking at reducing violence, you're doing it from a community-based perspective rather than applying a program into a community and telling the community to fit it. That's where we begin to see real change. I agree with Dr. Langmann that when we look at these other programs and the law—the ceasefire program, Roca, and everything else—what we need to do is look at them and their structure, but then localize them to specific issues in the community. Before, we saw five-gold-star programs being implemented into communities, and the community having to fit them. Those models do not work.
I will refer to OPK and STR8 UP as programs that work from the grassroots up, where it takes long-term commitment for the change to happen. Again, these are very underfunded programs; they're not seen as five-gold-star programs because they haven't been evaluated within those spaces.