Evidence of meeting #7 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was firearms.
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12:55 p.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Wassim Bouanani
It is a dilatory motion, so we need to proceed to a vote. It's a non-amendable and non-debatable motion.
12:55 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Okay. Let's move right to a vote.
(Motion negatived: nays 7; yeas 4)
The motion is defeated, so we will move back to the original motion.
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Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
I'd like to move an amendment to the motion before we move to vote on it.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC
I believe we're at the end of this hour anyway, with this panel, so I would suggest that we thank our witnesses and release them.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
That makes sense to me. They've been very generous with their time.
With the concurrence of the committee, I will thank them and we'll move on to complete this business.
Do I have agreement to do that?
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Thank you very much to the witnesses. They were very informed and very helpful.
Let's proceed.
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Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'm adding a slight amendment, just to add and not to take anything away from the motion. I would add “that the committee invite Vivian Krause as an expert on how American money is sourced and transferred into Canada to fund political influencers”.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Okay. We would then vote on the amendment.
Ms. Damoff, you have your hand up.
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Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I would say that we don't normally specify individuals. We're going to have an opportunity—all the parties—to put forward witnesses for this study, and I would invite the CPC to include this woman if that's who they feel is important. I know that the Liberal Party has witnesses we feel it is important to hear from as well.
I think we don't need to be this specific, so we'll be voting no on this amendment.
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Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
I just find it ironic that the Liberal member is saying that we don't specify, when the motion itself does specify a number of witnesses. We're just trying to follow their example by adding our own witness to their motion.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
I'd like to speak, Mr. Chair.
I have a question for Mr. Lloyd.
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Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
Mr. Lloyd, could you tell us who Vivian is? I didn't hear the surname.
Who is the witness who would like to appear before the committee?
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Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I thank the member for that question.
Vivian Krause is a well-known researcher in Canada who for a number of years has been conducting research into precedents of foreign funds being funnelled into Canada for political purposes.
For the purposes of this study, I think that having an expert like her, who has been very public and whose research has been widely reported across the country...she would be a useful witness to talk about the methods by which this money is being brought into Canada—the methods that are employed and the outcomes they achieve. I think she'd be a wonderful witness.
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Liberal
