Evidence of meeting #7 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was firearms.
A recording is available from Parliament.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Wassim Bouanani
It is a dilatory motion, so we need to proceed to a vote. It's a non-amendable and non-debatable motion.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Okay. Let's move right to a vote.
(Motion negatived: nays 7; yeas 4)
The motion is defeated, so we will move back to the original motion.
Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
I'd like to move an amendment to the motion before we move to vote on it.
Liberal
Liberal
Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC
I believe we're at the end of this hour anyway, with this panel, so I would suggest that we thank our witnesses and release them.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
That makes sense to me. They've been very generous with their time.
With the concurrence of the committee, I will thank them and we'll move on to complete this business.
Do I have agreement to do that?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Thank you very much to the witnesses. They were very informed and very helpful.
Let's proceed.
Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'm adding a slight amendment, just to add and not to take anything away from the motion. I would add “that the committee invite Vivian Krause as an expert on how American money is sourced and transferred into Canada to fund political influencers”.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Okay. We would then vote on the amendment.
Ms. Damoff, you have your hand up.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I would say that we don't normally specify individuals. We're going to have an opportunity—all the parties—to put forward witnesses for this study, and I would invite the CPC to include this woman if that's who they feel is important. I know that the Liberal Party has witnesses we feel it is important to hear from as well.
I think we don't need to be this specific, so we'll be voting no on this amendment.
Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
I just find it ironic that the Liberal member is saying that we don't specify, when the motion itself does specify a number of witnesses. We're just trying to follow their example by adding our own witness to their motion.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
I'd like to speak, Mr. Chair.
I have a question for Mr. Lloyd.
Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
Mr. Lloyd, could you tell us who Vivian is? I didn't hear the surname.
Who is the witness who would like to appear before the committee?
Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I thank the member for that question.
Vivian Krause is a well-known researcher in Canada who for a number of years has been conducting research into precedents of foreign funds being funnelled into Canada for political purposes.
For the purposes of this study, I think that having an expert like her, who has been very public and whose research has been widely reported across the country...she would be a useful witness to talk about the methods by which this money is being brought into Canada—the methods that are employed and the outcomes they achieve. I think she'd be a wonderful witness.
Liberal
