It depends on the outcomes we're talking about.
I think that respecting human rights obligations is important for Canadians, as is respecting our own Charter of Rights, and not having intersecting oppressions of the most vulnerable and marginalized communities. I think there's a public interest in protecting the most vulnerable among us.
Also, I think ensuring that officers have clear public codes of conduct and proper training and guidelines serves all of us, whether Canadians, non-Canadians, migrants or refugees. I think it's clearly in the public interest that we clean up, as I said, more than 20 years of an accumulation of systemic issues.