Thank you, Chair.
I take a little exception to saying we've come here to make decisions on the back of a napkin. We came here with a motion in both official languages, ready to go. Everything that's been done after our motion has been flippant, on the fly and on the back of a napkin, so it's actually completely backwards. We submitted ours properly through the clerk in advance, in both official languages. There's been nothing done willy-nilly here. It's been done properly from the beginning.
Ms. O'Connell mentioned a couple of times that this is a serious and sensitive issue. Yes, it's very serious and very sensitive. It's so serious that we need more than one meeting on it. If it's so serious, let's get serious. Let's get into this and figure things out. One meeting isn't serious. I don't know any issue that we've solved in one meeting. We need more time than that.
We heard earlier some very sensitive and very emotional discussions. Let's not rush through this. Let's do it properly. Let's all come to a consensus that we need more than one meeting. I don't know how anybody can think that we can do a serious and sensitive hearing in one meeting. That's not serious to me. Let's get serious. Let's do three meetings. Let's get to the bottom of this. Let's move forward.
Let the representatives of the victims be heard. We can't force them to come. The ones who are going to come are the ones who want to come and be heard. I heard Mr. Bittle say earlier that it was shameful that we were asking them to be heard. They don't have to come, but the ones who want to be heard will show up. Let's let them be heard. Let them speak about what they've been through and what happened to them back on June 1, when the heinous Mr. Bernardo was moved from maximum security to medium. I'm sure it caused them great stress and hardship. Let's get serious. Let's hear about it.
I can't support one meeting. One meeting is not serious. If we're going to talk about being serious, let's get serious. We wanted five. We'll go down to three. Let's do three meetings.