Evidence of meeting #75 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.

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12:30 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Just very briefly, I'll be voting against the subamendment, but with the intention of reintroducing one when we come back to the main motion. I just want to be very clear so that my vote is not misinterpreted.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Okay, Mr. Julian.

12:30 p.m.

An hon. member

I would ask for a recorded division.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We will have a recorded division, please, Mr. Clerk.

(Subamendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4)

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We will carry on with the motion as amended by Ms. Rempel Garner, and we'll go to Mr. Julian.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

On a point of order, Chair, I think you mean the amendment, not the “motion as amended”. We're on the amendment.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

That's correct. Thank you for the clarification.

We go to Ms. Rempel Garner's amendment to Ms. O'Connell's motion.

Mr. Julian, I believe you wanted the floor.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Again, very briefly, Mr. Chair, I'll be voting against the amendment, though there are some elements that I would like to bring back to Ms. O'Connell's motion: first, that we hold a three-hour meeting; second, that the Minister of Public Safety be invited as soon as possible to come to the committee on public safety issues; and then, third, that we receive a briefing on trauma-informed committee hearings so that this committee will be as well informed as the Canadian heritage committee was if in the future we are looking to have victims come forward.

I also would be proposing at that time that the union of public correctional officers be brought in. I thought that was a helpful proposal from the Conservatives.

I'll be voting against the amendment, but with the intention of proposing some amendments.

Now, Mr. Chair, I believe we're going to have bells very shortly, so we may not get to that today, but I'm hoping that off-line we can finally come to a consensus so that we can move on to Bill C-20. Like Madame Michaud, I'm anxious to improve the legislation. Hopefully, we can do that at our next meeting.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Are you moving the subamendment at this time?

12:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

No. That would make it too confusing.

I will be voting against the amendment, and then I will be offering those amendments to Ms. O'Connell's helpful motion.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Very well. Thank you.

I see that we do have bells. We require unanimous consent to continue.

Do we have unanimous consent to continue?

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

No.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Seeing no unanimous consent, the committee will stand adjourned at this time.