My point still remains. Mr. Bernardo was afforded the opportunity to know that he was going to be transferred before the families of the victims were made aware of such a thing, which again highlights the fact that the perpetrator was put before the victims' families—the victims, essentially.
I think that highlights something that is very wrong with our justice system. When we're talking about the revictimization of those who are impacted by scenarios like this, we have example after example. I can think of Terri-Lynne McClintic, who of course brutally assaulted, raped and murdered an eight-year-old girl and was moved from a prison to a healing lodge. Only after that was the family all of a sudden notified. The father spoke of the traumatic impact that had on him.
I think about Nicholas Baig. In 2017, he was in Pickering, Ontario—Ms. O'Connell's riding—and he murdered his wife. She was nine months pregnant. He stabbed her 17 times, and he was moved from maximum to medium security. Only after that was the family made aware of this. The mother has spoken out about this and the revictimization of that and the impact it has had on her as an individual.
I think about Mark Smich. He brutally killed two people for no other reason than simply being fascinated by death. He was convicted to serve two life sentences, and he too was moved from maximum to medium, and then families found out only after. They have spoken out about the impact of that revictimization.
I would have to ask you this, Ms. Kelly: Do you truly believe that victims are put first?