Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, again, Mr. Danson, for staying longer than scheduled. It has been helpful testimony.
Last week, Mr. Motz spoke about the minister being able to issue an order and revoke the transfer. However, we heard testimony at this committee that there is no such legal mechanism to do so. Although it may feel right—because, certainly, the public and your clients' friends and families want to see that happen—it would actually cause even more upheaval to do something in the public realm that could not withstand a court challenge and would have Paul Bernardo in the news even more with more court cases.
I just think that it should be clarified that it was clearly said in this committee that an order from the minister on an individual offender's classification or transfer would not be a legal order that CSC would be able to accept, and it would certainly not withstand a challenge. I just think that should be clarified.
When we're talking about notification for victims and victims' families, particularly around transfers, we heard testimony—and I certainly agree—that the issue of families finding out in the news or on the day of is completely unacceptable.
I think there could be challenges around the physical transfer taking place and wanting to ensure that nobody interferes in the physical transfer, but there has to be a better balance. Do you think that there would be an opportunity to, for example, say that a transfer is imminent or that something is going to happen but without, maybe, the specific dates, times or locations? Would that be a better mechanism to give time, for example, to your clients and the friends of the victims, who were very clear that they needed time to process this?
Could there be a better balance in terms of making sure that the operational standard is upheld while also giving time for families, victims and their friends to process what might be occurring?