My view on that is that, if the evidence—as in this case—as found by the Parole Board, is that the offender has no remorse and no insight, then he cannot be even considered for a transfer out of maximum security. It's just absurd to think that they somehow get a benefit after, in this case, 30 years in prison. Having no insight...?
I'm telling you.... Again, I don't mean to repeat myself. It's why we have this leave application before the Supreme Court of Canada. The entire country should listen to the public audio recordings of Paul Bernardo's evidence at both parole hearings. He talks about what he did to my clients like all of us would talk about the weather. When he's asked by the Parole Board, “Why did you have to inflict such pain?” he says, “They weren't doing what I asked them to do, so what do you expect me to do?” This is the evidence. We're transferring this guy to medium security? That's what I'm talking about. They're sanitizing the brutality of what he did.
There was no remorse, no insight, no empathy, nothing. That's the hallmark of psychopathy. You don't get transferred into medium security. You don't get a favour. You don't get a benefit. You don't get the extra freedom that you get in medium security.