Public Safety Committee on Feb. 5th, 2024

[Kristina Michaud, Bloc, Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC]

Thank you.

I find it hard to understand why the Conservative Party wants to table a notice of motion on auto theft in the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security, when the committee has already voted in favour of a motion on auto theft that I tabled a few weeks ago. I don't understand that. In addition, we are supposed to study this subject in a few weeks, possibly after the study of Bill C‑26. So I'm wondering about the need to table a new notice of motion on the same subject.

Thank you.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

Thank you, Ms. Michaud.

I can't really speak to the need. Mr. Lloyd does have two minutes on the floor. He'd probably be done by now, but it is in order, so I'll have to let Mr. Lloyd proceed.

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

On the same point of order, I would observe that, just two meetings back, we had a debate on a car theft motion. It seems excessive and redundant to me.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

It is in order.

Mr. Lloyd, go ahead.

[Dane Lloyd, Conservative, Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I have a minute left.

There's been an explosion in car theft, especially in the last three years. My notice of motion will be calling on the government to take immediate action—

[Peter Julian, NDP, New Westminster—Burnaby, BC]

I have a point of order.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

Go ahead, Mr. Julian.

[Peter Julian, NDP, New Westminster—Burnaby, BC]

Mr. Chair, I'm quite disturbed by this. We have a good-faith move to do a final round of questions. I have a ton of questions for the witnesses.

The Conservatives are spending their entire opposition day tomorrow on auto theft. As Madame Michaud has already mentioned, she's already brought a motion that has been adopted by this committee.

I don't see this as a legitimate motion being brought forward in good faith. I see this as a filibuster tactic, which I do not believe is appropriate, given that we have witnesses who've spent their time, and Canadian taxpayers who've spent their resources to have these hearings about legislation that we've just heard is absolutely critical to adopt.

I don't believe it's appropriate. It's redundant to bring forward this motion at this time. If the member persists in trying to filibuster this committee, I will have to challenge your decision to allow the motion to come forward, Mr. Chair.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

Thank you, Mr. Julian.

I'm going to take Mr. Lloyd in good faith. He said he has only 30 seconds left. That's not filibustering. He had two minutes, and it was his time. Quite frankly, we have spent more time outside of that discussing it.

Mr. Lloyd, we'll hold you to your word, and we'll wrap this up.

[Dane Lloyd, Conservative, Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'm disturbed that I've been blocked so many times from bringing forward this common-sense motion. This is an immediate problem. I've had my vehicle stolen. It was attempted to be stolen. I stopped a vehicle theft in Alberta over the Christmas break that occurred right in front of my house. This is an immediate problem. These repeat offenders need to be held accountable.

We can have a study on this, but Canadians want action now. We need to get tough on these repeat offenders. This is costing every Canadian family $500 a year in increased insurance premiums. I'm appalled that I've been stopped so many times from bringing forward a common-sense motion so that we can debate this in the House and take real action on this issue.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

Thank you, Mr. Lloyd.

We'll go to Ms. O'Connell for two minutes.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Once again, it's fake outrage for the Conservatives while the cameras are rolling. Once we get through Bill C-26, auto theft is the very next study, which Madame Michaud brought forward, that we would be dealing with. I also find it incredibly ironic that—

[Dane Lloyd, Conservative, Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

It's my time.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

It's a point of order, just like we had when he was speaking.

Go ahead, Mr. Lloyd.

[Dane Lloyd, Conservative, Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB]

We have witnesses here. I think it's very important that we hear from them, Mr. Chair.

Thank you.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

Ms. O'Connell, the floor is yours still.

You have a minute and a half left.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

I'm actually really pleased that my colleague did that, because it just goes to show the immaturity the Conservatives are showing every day that we have been studying Bill C-26. They haven't asked a single question.

I overheard Mr. Brock, after his filibuster the other day, ask what we were studying and whether this was the first day we were on it.

They don't care about security or safety.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

I have a point of order.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

Go ahead, Mr. Brock, on a point of order.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

I didn't comment at all at the last meeting. I don't know what Ms. O'Connell is talking about.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

No, I overheard—

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

The record will show—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Doug Shipley]

Thank you.

Ms. O'Connell.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

Thank you.

Sure, let the record show, Mr. Prosecutor, that I overheard him speaking to Mr. Lloyd about not knowing what was being discussed.