Public Safety Committee on June 4th, 2026

Evidence of meeting #41 for Public Safety and National Security in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Bill C-22

Members speaking

Claude DeBellefeuille

Before the committee

Wong Acting General Counsel, Policy Sector, Department of Justice

Burchill Director General, Technical Investigation Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Gilkes Acting Officer-in-Charge, RCMP Lawful Access, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Gibner Deputy Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy Sector, Department of Justice

Hiegel Director General, National Security Policy Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Nashef Director General, Policy, Planning and Accountability, Canadian Security Intelligence Service

Bilodeau Acting Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

6:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

June 4th, 2026 / 6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Mr. Mantle, you have the floor.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Thank you.

I guess this is a point of order, though. Your description of my request was not accurate. It was conditional. It wasn't simply to delay consideration of the clause. It was to delay consideration of the clause until the Privacy Commissioner could be present for that.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

The motion was defeated. We can vote on the motion again, if you want.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Okay. I'd like a recorded vote.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Okay.

Mr. Mantle, you're moving a motion to delay the consideration of the clause and to come back to it later during the clause‑by‑clause consideration of the bill, after the Privacy Commissioner has been invited.

We'll now proceed to a recorded division on this matter.

(Motion negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Mr. Mantle, do you have anything else to add?

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Yes, I believe I'm on the speaking list next. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Returning to BQ-2, I'd like to move a subamendment.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

We're on BQ-3.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

It's on BQ-3. I apologize.

I'd like to move a subamendment to BQ-3 that would delete the word “including” in proposed paragraph (a) and also delete the word “including” in proposed paragraph (b). Is that clear?

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

No, we need that in writing.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Then I'll need a moment to put that in writing to provide to the clerk. Can we suspend? It's just removing two words.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Yes, but it's just to make sure that everything is well understood by everyone.