Evidence of meeting #45 for Public Safety and National Security in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was division.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Aaron Gilkes  Acting Officer-in-Charge, RCMP Lawful Access, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Nashef  Director General, Policy, Planning and Accountability, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
Gibner  Deputy Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Bilodeau  Assistant Deputy Minister, National and Cyber Security Branch, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

We're at amendment CPC‑31.

I must read my decision on this amendment.

Bill C‑22 enacts the Supporting Authorized Access to Information Act. Amendment CPC‑31 seeks to make it mandatory to pay compensation to electronic service providers, according to the regulations made by the Governor in Council—

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

If it's out of scope, just let us know it's out of scope, please.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

It is.

12:05 a.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

Thank you.

We will not challenge.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

The reason is that this amendment would entail expenditures that would require a royal recommendation. Since a royal recommendation is necessary, this amendment is not in order.

I can say it in English.

12:05 a.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

I challenge the chair, please.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

You want to challenge the chair, which is fine.

Is the decision of the chair sustained?

(Ruling of the chair sustained)

We're moving to CPC-32.

Shall CPC-32 carry?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Shall CPC-33 carry?

An hon. member

No.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

We'll have a recorded vote on CPC-33.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Next is G-6.

Shall G-6 carry?

12:05 a.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

May I request that we take a five-minute bathroom break and come back to it?

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

That is a fair request. Let's do that, if that is all right with everyone.

Jacques Ramsay Liberal La Prairie—Atateken, QC

Let's have a vote on the amendment first, please.

12:05 a.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

Pass it on division.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Yes, maybe we should finish G-6, and then we'll break.

(Amendment agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll suspend for five minutes.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

We'll start over.

We're at amendment CPC‑34.

Shall amendment CPC‑34 carry?

12:15 a.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

I request a recorded division, please.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

This brings us to amendment G‑6.1.

Shall amendment G‑6.1 carry?

(Amendment agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Amendment NDP‑23 can't be considered because of a line conflict with an amendment that we've already adopted.

This brings us to amendment BQ‑16.

Claude DeBellefeuille Bloc Beauharnois—Salaberry—Soulanges—Huntingdon, QC

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Shall amendment PV‑1 carry?

(Amendment negatived on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Shall amendment LIB‑2 carry?

12:20 a.m.

Conservative

Frank Caputo Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Nicola, BC

Pass it on division.

(Amendment agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Shall amendment G‑7 carry?

(Amendment agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Shall amendment CPC‑35 carry?