I think, in both cases, they've raised the importance of bringing the different disciplines together with a harmonized approach to project funding and talent development. They've raised the issue, also, of the connection with innovation. Right now, innovation is viewed as totally separate. We have a bunch of programs for innovation, but we don't have.... No one is looking after the first “valley of death”, because it is not really in the granting councils' mandates. The innovation programs address issues that have already been in industry.
I think that's something we all care about. We all care about seeing things happening in this country in terms of benefits. We need to ask ourselves the question of how best to link these. This is why creating an organization to address not just the gaps but also the needs is very important.