In order to undertake any kind of interdisciplinary research and have a fulsome opportunity to address those things, you need to have the diversity of people at the table. It does concern me that, possibly, the capstone would be run by the people who are currently running the tri-council and would not have that breadth of input. That will require youth and labour and industry to be at the table.
I would almost recommend there be limited researchers at that table and instead focus on the big challenges we're faced with, define what those challenges are and then turn that over, whether it's to the management of a capstone research funding organization or the tri-council members, and ask, “What can we put together that will help address that?”
It's almost like we have to get researchers out of how to make this new thing give us more money to fund the work we're already doing. I'm not suggesting we get rid of the tri-council; I'm suggesting that a new organization needs to come to the table with some innovative approaches and a new way of thinking about what research is for in the country.