Thank you, Madam Chair.
Let me start with one question for Mr. Kaufmann, and then I'll ask Professor Kerr a follow-up question.
We've undertaken many studies in this committee. Earlier on in our mandate, there was a study on indigenous traditional knowledge, something I'd never really experienced on my own. I'm not a researcher, although I have family members who have done research and have done Ph.D.s in various categories, so the indigenous traditional knowledge was a new one for me. We learned at that point about different kinds of knowledge that are not in the mainstream and how they can help us cover more areas of research with a better depth of understanding. I certainly felt that way, in any case, after doing that study.
The question to you is based on what you have just testified on. Do you not think these are valuable perspectives to learn from, and that these communities deserve to have a say? They're certainly not the mainstream. I know we talk about buzzwords. English is not my first language, so I'm not sure I agree with a lot of the terminology that I'm hearing in this. It's not something that I'm used to. But we would have never heard about some of these perspectives if we had just gone with, let's be honest, your typical white man doing research.
Go ahead.