That is not what I'm saying. It's just that there are some ways.... To have these types of people around the table, maybe we need to start having programs that kind of loop them in. I'm not saying that we need to exclude people. It's about having more of an equity base in having those people looped in and also just recognizing that when we look at people who are receiving the grants and funding from the government, most of them tend to be men, compared to women.
On December 5th, 2024. See this statement in context.