My colleague previously alluded to a loss of trainees, and I really believe in curiosity-driven science. I'm part of Let's Talk Science and I talk to school kids. You see the spark in their eyes. The children, by nature, are extremely curious. Our kids are very curious. If you take away the ability for them to live on with their curiosity, what would you do? I can't imagine my life in a country or in a world where I can't be curious. I think that's what science enables us to do. We can retain our curiosity.
You wanted some metrics. With regard to the loss of trainees, when we lose trainees, we are losing not just.... I can only speak to virology. I'm a virologist by training. However, every facet of science is dependent on the next generation of scientists.
I only recently transitioned from being a postdoc to having my own lab, so I really know how difficult it is to be a postdoc with the salary we pay our postdocs in Canada. I try to make every effort to pay them a livable wage so that they'll continue their postdoc studies and see science as a career that's possible financially and in terms of having a family life. That's what I'm trying to create within my lab.