That's good. I was a bit surprised to hear that, but happily surprised, because I think 100% of Canadians would say they would be very interested in hearing about a sustainable health care system.
Perhaps you could expand on that with a bit of background. I remember one of the first things I read when I was getting into politics 10 years ago was a book by Jeffrey Simpson. I forget what it was called—“chronic care”, or something like that. It was about Canada's health care system. He went through various ideas about how we could improve the system and make it more sustainable. It ended with the fact that if you look at the health care systems of the world, you see that those with the best outcomes for the money spent were those more or less in northern Europe where they invested in people up front. They made sure that they were well educated, didn't fall into poverty, stayed out of hospitals and stayed out of jail—all those things that are the social basis of health. Then they had a good health care system that could run properly, but it took that upfront investment.
I'm wondering if you could comment on whether that is still one of the pillars of a sustainable health care system.