Eventually.
Basically, the key thing.... The first time we launched the call, we did that too quickly. They submitted proposals, and we linked them with scientists. Then they started the project.
Now they submit the project, and for about six months, sometimes a year, they interact with the scientific community to express their knowledge, to explain their knowledge to the academic community. They build the program together. They work together. If there is a publication at the end, both of them are part of it. It's not just the scientist. You give them reward, in a sense, and they are very proud.
I must say that every time we support teams like that, the scientific community, of course, is happy about it, but I'm more impressed by the citizen who became.... They'd say, “I had an idea. I had some knowledge. They listened to me, and now we work together,” and they continue. After the end of the project, they continue to work together. That's something we need to nurture in the future.