Yes, absolutely. I think there are all kinds of industry partnerships. There are some in which an industry partner wants very early-stage concept discussion, and there might even be the co-creation of an IP pathway. There are other situations when the partnership is centred around an industry-owned technology and there is a desire to validate, refine and demonstrate impact in an applied sector. Our partnership agreements usually lay out the nature of the agreement. I think that would be true for our whole sector.
We're trying to be sophisticated, fast and customer-friendly as a university when we engage with industry, so that the experience for the industry partner is a positive one. I think we have some work to do in the sector, probably, to be very focused on customer experience, with the customer being industry partners.