I didn't say that I thought it was desirable. However, I thought that there was a sort of causal link between the question of one of your colleagues on the increase in grants and the possibility of funding going directly through the universities. Between the decisions of Parliament and the redistribution that you make to research, there is an intermediate level, composed of the federal granting councils, whose work and existence I don't question.
On May 4th, 2023. See this statement in context.