Evidence of meeting #47 for Science and Research in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was study.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Anna Toneguzzo  Vice-President (Acting), Government and Stakeholder Partnerships, Colleges and Institutes Canada
Debby Burshtyn  Dean, College of Graduate and Postdoctoral Studies, University of Saskatchewan
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Hilary Smyth

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

—or the next one; we can deal with that.

The second round was going to be led by Mr. Lobb. If we get to the second round, just before we get started we'll talk about where we want to pick up our speaking order.

With all of those things on the table, is there an amendment?

First of all, Mr. Lobb had his hand up. Then we had Mr. Collins on the speaking list so far.

Mr. Lobb, what did you want to tell us or ask us?

Noon

Conservative

Ben Lobb Conservative Huron—Bruce, ON

Mr. Chair, there's a lot I want to tell you, but I think I'll just keep it to this for now.

This is an amendment on Mr. Tochor's motion. I hope the committee finds this well. The amendment reads as follows: That the future meeting be split between pay equity and the Beijing interference, with Beijing interference taking the first hour of each meeting and pay equity the subsequent hour to conclude each meeting.

That's the amendment.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Is that starting on the 20th? Does the rest of the motion stay as is, and you're just adding that to the motion?

Noon

Conservative

Ben Lobb Conservative Huron—Bruce, ON

Yes.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Is there discussion, Mr. Collins?

Noon

Liberal

Chad Collins Liberal Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Yes. I was going to amend it so that we get the first hour and that the second hour be dedicated to the study that's been put.

I'd also like the motion with the amendment in writing, if I could have that.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Okay.

Well, it doesn't sound like that's going to be accepted, so we're going to have to start doing some debate on the amendment. We'll follow the procedure on amendments.

The amendment that Mr. Lobb just put forward is the first one up for discussion.

I think you were just starting that discussion. Have you made your comments? Is there any—

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Can we get everybody back at the table first?

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

While there's a discussion going on with Mr. Cannings and Mr. Tochor, let's start.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Don't you want to talk about the amendment?

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

First let's go to the motion, and then the amendment.

The Clerk

It should be the other way around.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

It's the other way around. You have to—

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

I was going to read the motion and then the amendment—

The Clerk

Okay.

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

—and then we can start going on the amendment.

What do we have for the motion?

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

The main motion is on the first page you're at.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

If you want, I can read it again. Ready?

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(i), the committee study the use of federal government research and development grants, funds, and contributions by the Canadian universities and research institutions in partnerships with entities connected to the People's Republic of China, in areas including, but not limited to: photonics, artificial intelligence, quantum theory, biopharmaceuticals and aerospace; and including but not limited to, intellectual property transfers and developments with Huawei Technologies and the National University of Defense Technology; that the committee hear from the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, department officials, top research officials from Canadian universities, the federal granting agencies, and any other witnesses deemed relevant to the study; that the committee allocate a minimum of ten meetings to this study; and that the committee report its findings to the House.

Do you want me to repeat it again?

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

No, that's great. Thank you.

Mr. Lobb, what's your addition to that, please?

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

I think it was my amendment that was first to that motion, and then Ben.

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

I'm sorry. That's why I'm doing this. It's to try to get it sorted out.

Go ahead, Mr. Tochor.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

Mine is to amend the motion to six meetings instead of 10, and that the study would start on June 20.

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Okay.

Go ahead, Mr. Lobb.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ben Lobb Conservative Huron—Bruce, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Would you like me to read the subamendment to the amendment to the motion now?

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Yes.