Thanks for those answers.
EDI training has become almost the new norm over the last number of years. We would hope it would yield some results as it relates to closing the gap on many of the issues you've raised and Ms. D'Addario has mentioned here today. Given some of the information you and the other witnesses have provided about long-term trends, we would probably all agree that we have a long way to go in terms of closing the gap.
What role, then, does training play in all of this as it relates to policy and making inroads? Whether it's with colleges and universities, the private sector or the three levels of government that are all grappling with these issues, what recommendations do you have around training, whether it's EDI training or otherwise?