Thank you, Professor Houlden.
I understand the nuance you're making about competitiveness and the mitigation of national security risks. I want to hear more about that.
Margaret McCuaig‑Johnston, a senior official at the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council, NSERC, said that we should have a set of rules that would apply in scientific collaborations, including with researchers from authoritarian regimes like China and Russia. So it would be a differentiated approach.
What do you think of an approach like that? Also, what criteria should guide the categorization of countries?