Thanks for that. I don't think that the problem has been solved through our Canada research chair program, because all that the program has done is ensure that we have a diversity of representation of Canada research chairs. That has not addressed the pay issue.
It's interesting. I'm sitting here racking my brain to think about what could be done federally, and one thing I will say is that universities have to apply and be recognized as an institution that can hold tri-council dollars. Usually that recognition is based on whether you have good audit functions, can manage the funds and all those kinds of things, but there are other levers that could be utilized to indicate that a university is eligible for funding from the federal government for tri-council dollars. For example, they would have certain policies and practices in place.
That has not been taken up to any great degree. Some of my presidential colleagues will hate me for suggesting this, but I do think that we do need to look at both carrots and sticks, and this would be a stick that potentially could be utilized and thought about.
Again, that's what I'm thinking through. What are the regulatory levers that can be pulled federally to help us address this issue?