Thank you so much, Chair.
We have a fascinating panel of witnesses today.
Like my colleague Mr. Turnbull, I would really like to commend Ms. Heller for her very clear articulation that a very artificial division seems to be made between what we call western science and indigenous knowledge, which, of course, is based on observational scientific methods as well.
Sometimes it is helpful to counter the discrimination that is clearly there in what is currently considered indigenous knowledge by telling stories. We've heard a bit about psychedelics today, but are there other examples?
Perhaps, Ms. Heller, you could give us some other examples where the weaving of indigenous observational science has been incorporated into research that has had a lasting effect with some sort of positive outcome that everyone can acknowledge. Is there any concrete example of that kind of research that has been published and is widely acknowledged to have advanced science in its full sense?