I agree. Applied research is very different from pure research at universities. I've worked at universities and colleges, and I've worked in five different post-secondary institutions in my previous career, so I know the differences. In terms of applied research, there is some going on at universities—don't get me wrong—but it seems like there's a lot of concentration in colleges, and it has unique value. It also has a unique structure, those industry partnerships that you talked about and the ability to leverage private sector funding.
How do we incorporate that into some of the grant streams within the tri-council, which may not have contemplated that at their outset when they were designed many years ago?