I think government science is not appreciated, really, in the country and for various reasons, because we've moved most of the science out of the government into contracting for it. What has happened as a result is that in terms of some of the advantages that we need to have in national negotiations, and so on, such as negotiations I was involved with on spectrum in the satellite world, we couldn't have been as successful as we have been as a country without the government scientists providing the background and interfacing with the senior policy people within the government at that time.
In Canada, in terms of government science, we spend about 0.13% of GDP on government science, and the OECD average, again, is about 0.25%, so it's about double—not that it's a huge amount necessarily, but it represents something like $2.5 billion per year.
If you think about that being applied in all the areas where we have challenges, not just trade and not just telecommunications but in our areas around health as we've seen, the economy, our international defence, our Arctic programs, and so on, we need to have people who are in government who understand the science and can provide good advice, which might be confidential at times. That's the direction in which we should go.