When we think about making investments in research, we're often thinking about the capacity that's built, in particular, around tri-council funding.
One of the other members brought up, for example, the Canada research chair program. The opportunity of having a Canada research chair makes me think about Dr. Mike Flannigan and Dr. Jill Harvey, who are chairs at TRU. They help us build relationships with industry. They provide almost ambassadorships for the institution to create pathways to a return on investment for grant dollars. That's a really important piece of building research at a university.