That's fair enough. I'm going to run out of time. You're working on it.
My last question is regarding Amazon, Canadian Tire and Walmart. All of these companies bring in stuff from China. It's wrapped in cardboard packages and styrofoam. There's plastic all over it. At what point do you bring them in for a conversation as part of this and say they have to stop and that if they're going to keep bringing this stuff in, they have to start meeting some targets to reduce what's on their shelves and the packaging being brought in? Where is that at?