Both we and Circular Materials are part of EXPRA, which is a group of international pros like us who manage EPR systems in provinces or states. That's really a good area where we can share best practices. We often go to Europe to see what's happening. One thing that's very interesting in France, for example, is that they added a second layer between the sorting centre and the recycler that they call a secondary sorting.
We ask a lot of our sorting centres. They receive a lot of things that they should not be receiving. I invite all of you to go visit one if you haven't visited one. It's something I think every citizen should do. Once you see that, you see what we're asking of them. To get the quality of bales afterwards is almost impossible. What they're doing in France is that they have a second sorter. All of the plastics get sorted together at the sorting centre, and then there's another facility that sorts them out in different categories for the different demands of the recyclers, as my colleague mentioned.
There are these ideas that are coming up. This is something we're discussing with Circular Materials: Should we have secondary sorting in Canada? We're talking about technologies again and AI. A lot of it is happening here. Funnily enough, as I mentioned, a lot of Canadian companies are building sorting centres in other areas of the world. One of the most famous ones is in Great Britain, in Coventry, and it's being built by a Quebec company that does sorting equipment.
I think we have the knowledge. As we mentioned, I think we just need the policy and we just need the investment, but we are asking a lot about what's going on everywhere.