Thank you very much, Chair.
This is a very interesting topic to come and visit and to hear about.
If I could talk with you first, Dr. Hird—through the chair, of course—I heard very clearly from both of the first witnesses that recycling is not working. Only 9% is recycled, and when it's recycled, the outcome is not positive.
From the Government of Canada, what kinds of policies need to be put in place to start addressing this reduction? What do you think needs to happen for us to start to move forward as a country?