At what was known as the INC-4 meeting in Ottawa, a United Nations meeting on plastic and plastic waste, our CEO was very direct in saying that we support a plastics recycled-content mandate.
I would tell you that, like other regulated mandates, you have to have both the carrot and the stick. That's actually one of the beauties of what was then known as the renewable fuel standard, as designed by Prime Minister Harper's government. You had both the incentive side to increase ethanol production and also the mandate side that would create the market demand for that.
When you have a reasonable and achievable recycled content standard, it is a really strong signal to the financial sector to say that these are investments that these companies are making, and we can rely on those regulatory signals to lend them money and make sure that these investments can be capitalized on. It's a very important part to any type of a regulatory mandate.