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Evidence of meeting #1 for Science and Research in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Gayard  Committee Researcher

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Are you calling like...?

6 p.m.

Conservative

Jagsharan Singh Mahal Conservative Edmonton Southeast, AB

I would like to adjourn the meeting.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Do we have unanimous consent?

6 p.m.

Liberal

Helena Jaczek Liberal Markham—Stouffville, ON

Madam Chair, I would prefer that we make a decision on my motion and call the question.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Monsieur Blanchette-Joncas, go ahead.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

First, I would like to thank you for your understanding regarding my brief absence.

I'm open to the idea of conducting this study. However, like some of my colleagues, I'm wondering which committee would be best suited to carry it out. Perhaps it would be the Standing Committee on Health. It also concerns research, and I'm quite open to that.

However, I don't know whether six meetings are too many for this study. We could start with four meetings and add more if we need up to six. I'm open to the idea. We know that this will set a precedent for this committee. Afterwards, we'll all want six meetings to carry out our studies.

Perhaps the analysts can tell us. How many meetings were held per study in the previous Parliament? I think that this could give us a good reference point.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, Mr. Blanchette-Joncas.

We'll get input from the analyst.

Grégoire Gayard Committee Researcher

I will just need a couple of minutes to look at the previous work of the committee to know how many meetings we used for previous studies, if you want a precise answer.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Mr. Mahal had raised his hand.

Go ahead, Mr. Mahal.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Jagsharan Singh Mahal Conservative Edmonton Southeast, AB

Madam Chair, thank you. Since my colleague on this side and from the Bloc raised the issue that it might be similar to the health committee or that other committees might be appropriate for this job, could my friend on the other side perhaps answer whether they have checked with other committees?

They might be working on the same. We don't want to waste our resources on the same thing if two committees are doing it.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, Mr. Mahal.

Go ahead, Ms. Jaczek.

6 p.m.

Liberal

Helena Jaczek Liberal Markham—Stouffville, ON

Through you, Madam Chair, in fact, I did discuss this with members of the health committee, and they felt quite, as I do, that the fit is better here because there's not just an impact on human health.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Go ahead, Mr. Ho.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Given that there's such an intense and enthusiastic debate about which committee this should be at, we should probably go back to look at whether this is the appropriate committee. I know Helena had that discussion, but maybe it's something to reconsider.

I want to make a motion to adjourn the meeting, and I believe it's by majority, not by unanimous consent.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

We are having a debate, so we have Ms. DeRidder and then Mr. Noormohamed.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly DeRidder Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

For ease of efficiency, it was brought up earlier by Mr. Noormohamed that we might have other things coming forward in the fall, so maybe we'd go to four meetings and then go from there. That's all I have.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Go ahead, Mr. Noormohamed.

6 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

I want to thank my colleague across.... If we're willing to, say, start with four, and if we can get it done in four, we're certainly open to that.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Mr. Noormohamed, are you proposing an amendment?

6 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Yes, it's an amendment to make it four meetings.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

We have an amendment by Mr. Noormohamed that it be four meetings.

Go ahead, Mr. Baldinelli.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON

We'll get there, but first of all, my colleague moved a motion to adjourn. Does that not force a vote immediately, Madam Chair?

It's not by unanimous consent. Does that not then impose upon you the requirement to hold a vote to adjourn the committee?

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

He moved it, but there was.... I'm sorry for not calling the vote, but there was no consent. Some members of the committee said no, so that's why we did not go to that.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON

Does it require unanimous consent to move a motion to adjourn?

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

It has to go to a vote, but there were—