Evidence of meeting #17 for Science and Research in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Helena Jaczek Liberal Markham—Stouffville, ON
Madam Chair, the part of Monsieur Blanchette-Joncas's motion that I find extremely puzzling is the last phrase: “and that the Committee report its findings and recommendations to the House following the meeting.” I don't understand how that's relevant. Surely, reports from this committee to the House relate to studies that we are doing.
I would move, at the very least, to suggest that we strike that piece of the recommendation.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Thank you, MP Jaczek.
Can you please reread the amendment you have proposed? Now we have amendment on the floor, and the clerk was not able to get the last part of it.
Liberal
Helena Jaczek Liberal Markham—Stouffville, ON
I would simply strike the last phrase and would end the motion, as a preliminary amendment, with “no later than December 11, 2025”.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Now we have an amendment on the floor, as proposed by MP Jaczek, and we will deal with the amendment first. The amendment is to end the motion after “December 11, 2025” and delete “and that the Committee report its findings and recommendations to the House following the meeting.”
We are now dealing with the amendment.
Go ahead, MP Noormohamed.
Liberal
Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC
I obviously support my colleague's amendment. I would only note that I have an amendment forthcoming, which would also deal with the December 11 date. The challenge is that Minister Joly is with the G7 until December 10.
Liberal
Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC
I'm just pointing out that there are a couple of ways we could deal with it. One is to have one larger amendment, or we could deal with it, anyway.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Okay.
Is there any discussion on the amendment proposed by MP Jaczek?
We have MP Blanchette-Joncas.
Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC
Madam Chair, is it possible to suspend the committee for a minute? We would like to validate the information.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Okay. I will suspend the meeting for a few minutes.
The meeting is suspended.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
I call the meeting to order. I'll request that all members take their seats.
We suspended the meeting. Before that, we were on the amendment proposed by MP Jaczek.
Is there any debate on it?
Go ahead, MP Baldinelli.
Conservative
Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON
Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you to my colleagues.
Quickly, on removing the entire line that's been proposed by my colleague, it's not so much about having recommendations in there, but I would still suggest that, following our meeting with the ministers, the committee report its findings back to the House. I think that should still be included—not so much recommendations, but that based on testimony and what we hear, we make a report and then present it in the House.
Liberal
Bloc
Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I just want to explain why we made that clarification in the motion I tabled. Obviously, in the case of Minister Solomon, the objective is to invite him as part of the study, but in the case of Minister Joly, we would like to make sure that our questions and the things we want explained are presented to the House.
We don't necessarily want to do a complete study on the subject, but I think it's important that what is communicated here, in committee, be then reported to the House, as happens most of the time, so that the government can respond.
That's our goal.
Liberal
Jennifer McKelvie Liberal Ajax, ON
I'm very confused. MP Baldinelli just...and maybe I can ask him.
Madam Chair, are we allowed to ask questions?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
We are debating the amendment. He gave his comments on the amendment, so please go ahead.
Liberal
Conservative
Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON
It's separate, if you read the motion.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
All the comments should be addressed through the chair and not directly.
Liberal
Jennifer McKelvie Liberal Ajax, ON
With the comment you just made about recommendations and the testimony you're hearing, it sounded like it was more part of the AI study. Minister Solomon will be—
Conservative
Liberal
Jennifer McKelvie Liberal Ajax, ON
Minister Solomon is reporting back through the AI study and will be here, so I would think all of that would be combined into what comes out of this study.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Just to clarify, before we get into further debate, right now we are debating the motion that has been proposed by MP Blanchette-Joncas, which asks for a separate committee report with findings and recommendations for the House following this particular meeting. This is what the motion is asking for.
MP Jaczek proposed an amendment to delete this line, but as the motion is, it is asking for a report separate from the AI report.
Conservative
Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON
The meeting will be separate. It will be to discuss their mandates as well.