Evidence of meeting #18 for Science and Research in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was office.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Nemer  Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I call this meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 18 of the Standing Committee on Science and Research.

Pursuant to the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 20, the committee is meeting to have a briefing session with the chief science adviser of Canada, Dr. Mona Nemer.

Welcome, Dr. Mona Nemer. Thank you for appearing before the committee.

I would like to make a few comments for the benefit of the witnesses and members.

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I'll give a reminder that all comments should be addressed through the chair.

Thank you, Dr. Nemer, for appearing before the committee. You will have five minutes for your opening remarks, and then we will go into a round of questioning by the members of this committee.

Thank you. You can please begin.

Mona Nemer Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Thank you very much,

Good afternoon, Madam Chair and distinguished members of the committee.

Thank you for the opportunity to be with you today.

To start, I would like to acknowledge all the members who participated in our “Science Meets Parliament” event last week—It is important that we continue to build greater connections between decision‑makers and our scientific community.

Thank you all for taking the time to engage with some of our brightest young scientists, who came from all over Canada to participate in this year's edition of Science Meets Parliament. They were thrilled by their experience. It helps them appreciate your important work and learn how their research and expertise can support our parliamentarians and benefit our country.

Over the eight years that I have served in this role, the world has changed in profound ways. Technologically, we're in the midst of a transformation driven by artificial intelligence, quantum computing, genomics and clean energy innovation. Geopolitically, we're witnessing a shifting landscape and a global recognition that science and technology are deeply intertwined with national security and sovereignty. Economically, nations are competing not only for natural resources and markets but also for the talent, data and intellectual capacity that drive innovation and growth.

These changes bring both opportunities and challenges. They demand that we adapt quickly, make evidence-informed decisions and strengthen the systems that allow us to respond effectively. Science is central to that effort. It helps us detect emerging risks, develop new technologies and craft solutions that improve our social and economic resilience, from health and food security to energy and digital sovereignty.

But resilience does not mean isolationism. True resilience comes from connections, from collaboration among countries, sectors and disciplines. Whether we're mapping the Arctic, monitoring oceans or developing AI standards, no nation can do it alone. International collaboration helps us ensure that discovery benefits everyone and reinforces our reputation as a trusted and constructive global partner.

That said, collaboration must be grounded in a strong domestic foundation. If we want to remain at the forefront of innovation, we must have a long‑term strategy that allows us to invest in Canada’s science enterprise—in people and skills, in infrastructures and in the institutions that turn ideas into sustainable outcomes. That means supporting both fundamental and applied research, enabling interdisciplinary approaches, and ensuring that our data and research are managed responsibly. At the same time, we should safeguard the intellectual property generated through research activities and enhance its translation into innovative products, processes and services.

My office is ready to double down on our domestic and international efforts that have, over the past year, supported Canada's G7 presidency and global engagement, while providing the best advice to our government for important national issues, such as biodiversity conservation, research data protection, emergency preparedness and the science needed for avian flu management.

Science is one of Canada's greatest strategic assets. It can fuel our economy, enhance our global standing and enable us to meet the challenges of our time with both confidence and compassion.

I look forward to continuing to work with this committee to strengthen Canadian science, to build resilience at home and to ensure that Canada remains a collaborative, trusted voice in global research and innovation.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, Madam Nemer.

We will now proceed to our rounds of questioning. We will begin our six-minute rounds with MP Ho.

MP Ho, you will have six minutes. Please go ahead.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Ms. Nemer, let's begin with the basics. As chief science adviser, are you the head of a government agency?

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

No, I'm not the head of a government agency.

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Do you make any regulatory decisions that are going to be implemented by this government?

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

I don't make decisions. I'm an adviser. I provide advice on policies and sometimes on implementations.

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

You don't oversee any operational files at all.

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

I don't.

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Okay. According to published sources, you earn $393,000 per year. Is that number correct? Is that in the ballpark?

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

I'm sorry; the number refers to what?

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Your salary is $393,000. Is that correct?

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

The bracket of my salary is public information, yes.

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

For that level of compensation, what exactly are Canadian taxpayers paying you to do? I just want to get an understanding of that.

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

I think that's a very good question, sir.

What the Canadian public is paying for is an independent adviser who is functioning in a transparent and trustworthy manner in providing unbiased advice to government and putting it in the public domain. They're funding an office that provides a challenge function for government, and let me tell you that we need more and not less of that.

That office is also supporting Canada's international engagement by making sure our government has the latest information to make decisions—

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

I'm going to intervene here.

According to the staffing directory, your office is made up of 24 employees. Is that number correct, or in the ballpark?

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

Yes, that's about correct.

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

What's the total operating budget of your office, including travel, staff and everything, per year?

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

It's under $4 million.

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

I don't think your office appears to publish any performance audits. You just said that it doesn't make any kind of mandatory recommendations and does not oversee any federal agency, and you're not a head of an agency. What exactly are your key performance indicators?

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

First of all, let me help you appreciate the position by saying that all peer countries have a chief science adviser, so I guess they must all feel that this is a helpful position for government.

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

What I want to understand is how taxpayers measure your performance specifically, not just the fact that it exists in other countries.

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

I was appointed on what's called good behaviour. I don't get any bonus pay. It was done this way so that I maintain the independence of the office and I don't have to provide the advice that the minister or the prime minister wants to hear and function in a truly unbiased manner.

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Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

I understand the independence of it.

Let's move on and talk about deliverables and transparency.

In the private sector, for this level of senior executive compensation, people are held to weekly deliverables—action items, active reports, performance metrics. What exactly did you accomplish in the last week?

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Chief Science Advisor of Canada, Office of the Chief Science Advisor of Canada

Mona Nemer

Sir, I guess I have to explain how we function, because we provide advice to the government—