Thank you, Madam Chair.
I'd like to quickly indicate that I'll ask one question, and then I'll cede some of my time to my colleague Ms. DeRidder. She has a few questions she'd like to ask.
I'd like to follow up with Ms. Cobey and Mr. Larivière.
Mr. Larivière, you mentioned a notion that struck me—the lack of consensus on what constitutes research excellence.
Ms. Cobey, you talked about DORA and the move away from quantitative to qualitative metrics, for example. The DORA principle is being accepted by the three federal granting agencies, but I read in the briefing materials provided that only nine universities have accepted that principle. Why do you think there's only a limited uptake on that with regard to accepting the DORA principle? What's precluding others from accepting that idea?