Evidence of meeting #22 for Science and Research in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Evan Solomon  Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation
Schaan  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Industry

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Madam Chair, I'm just looking for a solution. Right now, you're telling me that you don't have a solution.

Is that what you're telling me?

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

MP Noormohamed has suggested a solution. If you want to send in your questions, we can request that the minister send the responses.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

How do we go about calibrating this in terms of number of words, in terms of number of questions?

5 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer McKelvie Liberal Ajax, ON

It's about 200 words.

5 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Mr. Blanchette‑Joncas, the advantage is that if you ask a question, the minister can take the full two minutes to answer it.

I'm sorry.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Please address the comments through the chair, and speak one at a time.

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Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

I'm sorry.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

MP Noormohamed, do you want to say something?

5 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Yes, I just want to say that if you ask a question at the microphone, the minister can take the remaining two minutes to answer, whereas if he responds in writing, his answer may be the equivalent of one, two or 15 minutes. I don't know, but it's to your advantage. It's up to you to decide, I think.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Yes.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

MP Blanchette-Joncas.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

That's fine, Madam Chair.

I'm going to ask the minister a few questions in writing, and then he can respond to me. I appreciate the co-operation of my colleagues. You understand, I'm just trying to do my job, because many people have worked with us and put in time, effort and energy to formulate these questions. So it's important to ask them. We can find an arrangement, I hope, by respecting the speaking order.

I'm ready, Madam Chair, to vote on this motion so that it can be adopted, I hope.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, MP Blanchette-Joncas. You can send in the questions. We'll try to get an answer.

Now we have the motion on the floor.

MP Noormohamed.

5 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

We have read our colleagues' motions, and we agree with most of them.

At this point, Madam Chair, I would like to move some amendments, if I could.

I move:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the Standing Committee on Science and Research order the Department of Industry and the Department of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation to table, sixty (60) days following the adoption of this motion, all of the following documents, from September 1, 2025 to the present, relating to the development, content, governance and implementation of the National Artificial Intelligence Strategy, namely:

Then it goes on as my colleague wrote. Later, after the word “unsolicited”:

and that the information be in compliance with information that would be given via an Access to Information and Privacy request.

These are small changes that I think will improve the motion. In particular, they are in line with what my colleague wants. That gives the minister a little more time to make changes.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you for this amendment. Can you please email it to the clerk so that it can be circulated to all the members?

Now we have an amendment on the floor. I'll suspend the meeting for a few minutes so that this amendment can be sent to the clerk and circulated to all the members.

The meeting is suspended.

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I call this meeting to order.

We have an amendment to the motion of MP Blanchette-Joncas. The amendment has been circulated to all the members of the committee.

Seeing no hands raised, can we go to a vote on the amendment?

MP Noormohamed, can you please confirm the date on that? Is it September 1?

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

It's September 1, yes.

I thought it was in there. I'm sorry.

The Clerk of the Committee Cédric Taquet

Okay. Is it 2025?

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

That's correct, yes. It's the date of the launch.

The Clerk

In French it says this:

de la première septembre”.

I just wanted to make sure.

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

It's “du premier septembre”. I'm sorry.

The Clerk

That's perfect. Thank you so much.

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

We have an amendment.

Go ahead, MP Baldinelli.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON

Madam Chair, I have some questions with regard to the request that was made by my honourable colleague.

We've gone from a seven-day turnaround to 60 days. Perhaps I would suggest to seek my honourable colleague's views on whether we can reduce that to 30 days instead of 60 days.

Then the information at the end—“That the information be in compliance with information that would be given via an Access to Information and Privacy request”—fundamentally alters the request that this committee has put forward. The information that we have asked for as parliamentarians, and that my colleague has put forward, is information that we have every right to ask for as parliamentarians. When we get that information, if we want to discuss it in camera, we can do so, but this request fundamentally alters what will be given to us and is not in line with the request that my colleague has made.

My suggestion would be to eliminate that end part, and then, instead of 60 days, make it 30 days.

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Okay. Are you proposing a subamendment?